No power to speedo/ mileometer/ rev counter/ radio

[Timedweller]

Hi,
Suddenly today the speedometer/ mileometer/ rev counter/ dashboard lights/ radio/ rear window heater/ fog light have no power.
I’ve located the fuses behind the storage well on the driver side.
Please can anyone tell me which fuses I need to look at?
Presumably if they’ve blown it points to an issue?
It was very rainy today and I did drive through a big puddle.
Any advice gratefully received - thanks

 

[Timedweller]

Also the fuel gauge. The whole dashboard is dead.

 

[red]

What year is your car?

There is an engine bay fusebox which contains the main electrical fuse. It's 39 or 55 depending on the year.

 

[Timedweller]

What year is your car?

There is an engine bay fusebox which contains the main electrical fuse. It's 39 or 55 depending on the year.

Thanks.
It’s a 2001. So will it be under the bonnet, at the top in a box near the windscreen? Are the fuses labelled?

 

[Timedweller]

Is it this one? (55 - Main power supply to vehicle electrical system - 60A)
Can I just pull it out and replace with a 60A fuse from Halfords?

 

[YOG]

View attachment Owners Guide 06-2001 - Fuses.pdf

 

[Timedweller]

Thanks.
Replaced fuse 55 and now the LCD clock works and the radio has power but the dashboard is still out.
Is there another fuse I need to look at or is this a bigger problem?

 

[red]

Take a look at Fuse 2 in the central fuse box, this is the interior lights, instrument cluster, clock and heater.

Is the central locking working? If not check fuse 13 too

 

[Timedweller]

Fuse 2 is fine. Central Locking works.
Curses!

 

[Timedweller]

My garage says (on the phone) it’s likely to be the instrument panel itself. If so it would need to be sent away for testing and this in itself is potentially £££
If you can swap out the instrument panel (?) does the replacement need decoding/ recoding?
I hope this isn’t it (the last straw) for my puma! I’m not at all practical.

 

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You can just swap it, no recoding needed as far as I understand it. (not that modern).

I'd probably get an auto electrician to look at it before swapping anything though (unless it's cheap and you can do it yourself)

 

[Timedweller]

Thanks. Even with a digital mileometer? No recoding?
That’s made me slightly hopeful.
There seem to be instrument clusters available from Germany on eBay

 

[red]

Even then. There's a guide on how to swap from the older analogue clocks to the digital and it wasnt mentioned. Analogue to digital dash swap

 

[Timedweller]

Thanks. I’ve just looked at that thread.
I wonder how long it would take an electrician to swap the instrument cluster? The guy I spoke to couldn’t remember the last time he did one but said it might be 2 hours

 

[Timedweller]

So there are 2 ways to go
1. Take out instrument cluster, courier to company that repairs them (£125 + VAT) then put it back in the car
2. Buy an old instrument cluster (with ideally less miles on the clock than mine) and replace existing one.
If anyone has any thoughts I’d appreciate the input.
Thanks

 

[red]

A like for like swap should be quite straightforward in theory. No idea how long it would take though.

I mean it's a gamble for either of those options really, you don't know for sure that this is the actual problem.

Before doing that, are all of the other electrics now working?

 

[Timedweller]

Good point. I need to methodically check headlights, brake lights, interior light, heated rear window etc.
for instance, the clock works as does the radio. Don’t think the fog light switch lights up though.
I need to check, cross red with the fuse list and talk it through with an electrician

 

[CherryVimto]

Removing the gauge cluster will take about 15 - 20 mins.

I'm pretty sure the steering wheel needs to come off... I'm almost sure I removed mine when I removed my gauges and I pulled off the red part of the hazard light switch.