HOW TO: Change cambelt on 1.7L 125hp engine

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Re: HOW TO: Change cambelt on 1.7L 125hp engine

Post by xztraz » Mon Sep 01, 2014 7:19 pm

That tool would most certainly work if it fits.

Just make sure you check the timing properly when all is in place. a couple of turns of the engine by hand and test with timing pins (as guide states). Took 2-3 tries for me to get it spot on.

and also the tensioner must be mounted and tensioned correctly
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Re: HOW TO: Change cambelt on 1.7L 125hp engine

Post by ElDude at Allison Automotive » Tue Sep 02, 2014 10:15 pm

No need to remove the starter. .right faf that is...you can lock it up round the other side near the shaft area
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Re: HOW TO: Change cambelt on 1.7L 125hp engine

Post by neil007evans » Wed Sep 03, 2014 9:05 pm

Hi, im a new member and have just picked up a 1.7 in good condition but in need of a cam belt change and some other tlc. Can anyone point me to a good diy guide, im pretty mechanically sound so hope to be ok. Thanks everyone. Neil.
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Re: HOW TO: Change cambelt on 1.7L 125hp engine

Post by joedeltahf » Wed Sep 03, 2014 10:31 pm

neil007 take it to the garage -its doable but a right carry on!

flywheel locking tool worked for the crank bolt removal though had to use a longer bolt and lock nut against the key to get it to mesh with the flywheel and the starter in / out is a complete t**t.

this is the most f**k on ive had to change a cambelt on any car and ive done a few.

ebay cam alignment tool is too thick - used 2 bits of 3mm x 25mm (6mm total thickness) ally from B&Q, could of used another mm to exacting - car runs great. tdc crank stop tool/pin is the only useful bit in the kit.

slackened just the exhaust cam pulley to get tension and tooth alignment correct

had to cut 2" long x 1" wide out of the edge of plastic cam cover just under exhaust cam to get it on after 15mins of swearing may be easier if the engine mount was a bit looser but still another f on.

I would say all in its took about 15hrs

good tip for drive belt (not cambelt) is cable ties looped round engine mount and you can hook spanner in with tensioner fully off and wind belt on the crank pulley, couldnt have done it on my own with only 2 hands otherwise.
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Post by Jamesx19 » Tue Nov 28, 2017 9:14 pm

Hello,

Got a second Ford Puma 1.7. The last one was too far gone with rust to save. But loved the way it drove, so I'm onto my second stint of Puma ownership.

This one hasn't had a cambelt change for a while so I'm going to have a crack with the help of the Guide from "Gates" and the helpful comments above.

Just a question though... Please could you look at this link to a timing kit on ebay tell me if it will do the job? None of the kits listed mention the 1.7 engine, so I want to be sure it'll work.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Camshaft-Set ... SwpINZZ9ai

Many thanks, James
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Post by tuonokid » Wed Nov 29, 2017 12:30 am

Hi James
I used the timing kit from Laser tools when I did mine so I can vouch for that. It's the kit that suits the ZETEC E as well as the ZETEC SE (Puma).
You will also need a copy of Gates technical bulletin # 036 off the internet and also, either all the crank holding tools shown in the Ford TIS at the start of this thread if the engine is not coming out. If you are taking the engine out you will need a flywheel locking tool.
If you don't understand the procedure and why things need to be done in a certain way you will ruin your engine as it's impossible to do the cambelt change with just the timing kit as special tools. As the engine has no woodruff keys on the crankshaft or camshafts, once the pulleys have been undone there is no way to lock the crankshaft in place without the special tools to tighten the crankshaft pulley. Also if you don't follow the Gates technical bulletin #036 you will tension the belt incorrectly and ruin your engine.
So to sum up the belt change on this has many pitfalls if you don't know what you're doing and if you don't have ALL the special tools.
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Post by Jamesx19 » Wed Nov 29, 2017 10:00 am

Thanks for the quick reply Barry. Unfortunately I can't get the Ford TIS to download and show on my computer, and none of the kits are clear whether they will do the job. Hence just after some one who has done the job to look at the link and see if all the parts are present in the kit advertised.

I have the gates 036 instructions. It seems clear that to get the correct tension, all the floating pulleys have to be able to move when the pin is released from the tensioner.

I'll do some more Google'ing

Thanks James
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Post by Jamesx19 » Wed Nov 29, 2017 11:25 am

OK, apologies. Answered my on question. Yes those kits will fit the Puma Zetec SE engine. No kits available for the crankshaft pulley remover and installer. Will have to weld up my own I think. Cheers James
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Post by YOG » Wed Nov 29, 2017 11:31 am

PM me your email address and I'll send a PDF.
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Post by tuonokid » Wed Nov 29, 2017 2:36 pm

Hi James
The tools are still available but as rare as hens teeth. These are mine and are under the brand description of AST 4629 or Taskmaster TM4629.

Image291120173567 by barry wilson, on Flickr

They vary in price but can be as much as over £200 plus you also need a long knuckle bar, a degree disc that works in conjunction with the knuckle bar (1/2 inch square drive) and a 19mm and 18mm bi-hex sockets.
If you take the engine out to do the job you don't need the tools shown in the photo just a flywheel locking tool.
Whereabouts do you live as if you are near me you can possibly borrow mine but you may also be close to some of the guys on here that do cambelt swaps in which case I would recommend that you use them as by the time you've bought the tools that's nearly the cost of the work being done.
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Post by Jamesx19 » Wed Nov 29, 2017 3:57 pm

Hi Rick, PM sent

Cheers Barry for the info. I'm down on the south coast in Brighton. Think you guys are all a bit far north!!!

I'll get a couple of quotes. But seems around £400 judging by the internet forums.... Car only cost £375! No rot in subframe mounting though and only 57,900 miles. I'd like to look after it....

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Post by YOG » Wed Nov 29, 2017 4:52 pm

Hi James
Not received your PM yet.
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Post by Jamesx19 » Wed Nov 29, 2017 5:22 pm

!! Sorry, put Rick in receipt not Yog. Sent again, but managed to get the PDF downloaded.....
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Post by tuonokid » Sun Jun 24, 2018 7:22 pm

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Post by xztraz » Sat Aug 18, 2018 9:00 am

Now after a good while with the guide. Does it need some updates? I'm about to change timing belt again so might overhaul the instructions too.
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Post by tuonokid » Sat Aug 18, 2018 5:54 pm

Just change the remove the water pump pulley before taking off the drive belt as it's much easier to take out the water pump pulley bolts with the belt in place as it clamps the pulley from spinning.
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Post by xztraz » Fri Aug 24, 2018 1:43 pm

It already says that on point 7b. Or should i change it somehow?
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