Reprogram a remote key fob (central locking)

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Re: Reprogram a remote key fob (central locking)

Post by taff-c » Fri Feb 10, 2012 2:09 pm

Hi all,

Just bought a '98 Puma, it came with two keys, one original and one copy, both with red plastic bits on the top. Unfortunately no remote. No problem I thought, eBay can sort anything!

First attempt, bought the wrong type (3 button not 2), epic fail!

Second, bought a brand new 2 button remote. I have tried to program this, but am failing. I can get the car to enter programming mode, with the LED solid. The key LED flashes when I press and hold the button (tried both), but after I press the other button 3 (or 4, 5) times and release both, nothing happens!

I have tried disconnecting the car sensor, the car will not go into programming mode.
I have checked if the alarm works, very annoyed neighbour.

I am beginning to lose it, please help.

As an afterthought, should I be able to see an IR bulb on the new key? The closest to anything I can see is the transponder bulby thingy.

Another thought has just come to me, in the instructions it states that only 4 remotes can be programmed. How can I remove any previous ones? Thinking that it is a 14 year old car and may have had some forgetful owners who lost 4 of them!
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Re: Reprogram a remote key fob (central locking)

Post by daddy2coull » Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:36 pm

i have a three button type, i've had a play tonight with the spare key from my 2008 Fiesta ST500, it was quite amusing locking and unlocking both cars at the same time with one remote, but my question is.....

on the puma i only have one key, a three button remote type, is it possible to make two keys operate the locks because when i used my fiesta key, the puma key stopped working. any help would be appreciated

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Re: Reprogram a remote key fob (central locking)

Post by ozzitoto » Fri Mar 02, 2012 4:36 pm

Hi. I'm have a Ford Puma 2000yr with 3 button remote key fob. I have to access the car via the boot as the central locking will not work. I havetried method 2 for the 3 button key fob however I have the same problem as "barkerlad83" on 18th July 2011, that is I get the first beep and the fog light lit up, but did not get the 2nd beep when pressing the button on the fob. Am i doing something wrong. Should the key fob be pressed once after the 1st beep and fog light, should the button be held in until i get the second beep, also when pressing the fob should it stay in the ignition or taken out and pointed somewhere. :? The is the last thing i have to sort before i can get the car sold so any help really appreciated :-)
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Re: Reprogram a remote key fob (central locking)

Post by red » Fri Mar 02, 2012 7:14 pm

Sounds like a flat or faulty fob to me
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Re: Reprogram a remote key fob (central locking)

Post by ozzitoto » Fri Mar 02, 2012 8:21 pm

Hi Red, thanks for the post. I've had the key fobs diagnostice tested & all was fine, any other suggestions. Do I need to get a new fob, if so where would you recommend. Ebay? Ford? or other? :-)
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Re: Reprogram a remote key fob (central locking)

Post by miniman12 » Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:23 pm

Hi

Not new to the site but new to posting, a lot of really good info on here!

I am having trouble reprogramming a key and want to check I'm not being an idiot..

I have a 99 Puma with a single 3 button remote. To rectify this knowing you need two keys to program a new one, I got the local Shoe Repair store to cut me a 2nd Key. This works fine and I now have two keys which start the car, but only one remote central locking fob.

I have a 3rd key bought of ebay which i got cut and want to program myself to start the car, that way if I lose a key i still have two!

However trying to follow method 2, Im just having no luck. Done the 0 to II with both keys in succession and then when I do it with the third no luck, the clock led just flashes meaning programming failed.

Wondered if the key off ebay has a duff chip and if anyone could send a link to one that will definitely work?

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Re: Reprogram a remote key fob (central locking)

Post by SENATEpumA » Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:46 pm

So, the second key you got cut at the shoe shop starts the car?
How did this key get programmed to the immobiliser to start the car. Was it programmed (cloned) from the first key?

To program another key to the immobiliser, the two 'already programmed' keys need to be different. If one is 'cloned' from the other, that does not make two different keys, it makes two, but the same.
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Re: Reprogram a remote key fob (central locking)

Post by miniman12 » Mon Jun 25, 2012 9:16 pm

Ah interesting, im not aware if he cloned it or not, but I'm guessing that as all he had was the original it must be. I presumed that it would be a new one....might have just made a £55 mistake!

Is there anyway to find out if its a clone or not?

I thought it might not be working because the third key is a red transponder and I thought maybe a blue one should be used?

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Re: Reprogram a remote key fob (central locking)

Post by justR » Fri Aug 31, 2012 8:47 pm

Hi there,

First of all I would like to mention that I'm a totally newbie having similar problems to yours.

I had an idea to know if two keys are clones. If I'm wrong, please correct me :)
Here it goes: In the owner's manual it says how to erase from the memory all the keys but the two you use in the erasing procedure. To do this I think you also need two different keys. If it works, it may mean you have two different keys, and not clones.

I tell you this because I wasn't able to program the 3rd key, but tried the erase procedure and it worked.

Anyway, given what you said, I also think you probably have two cloned keys, but maybe you can get another cloned transponder and get it into your remote.

I hope I explained it OK, if not, please ask :)

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Re: Reprogram a remote key fob (central locking)

Post by troyster » Fri Sep 28, 2012 5:34 pm

Hi all, right I have just tried to program the 2 button fob to my car did all what is said and the fob flashes 5 times i then put the key in the ignition to turn off programing mode but no joy

Any ideas??
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Re: Reprogram a remote key fob (central locking)

Post by e46 coupe » Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:16 pm

Saraimostaza wrote:
Parksy87 wrote:Brand new batteries in the fob the key fob is working fine as in the bulb works but the puma wont go into programming mode to detect the key in the first place.

Thanks in advance
Tom

Hi, I have exactly the same problem. After changing batteries the FOB doesn´t open the car.
(Two keys infrared key, early 98 1.7i Puma).
I tried to reprogram the remote, but when changing the contact from position 0 to I, the led in the clock stays blinking the same way it does when the car is closed or when no key inthe contact. so it never enters the programming mode.
Maybe i didn´t understand the instructions, but i think the LED must stay on after a while, then i have to turn the key from I to 0 and start with the programming procedure in front of the car sensor.

I would thank any help.
Any body figure out how to get the Puma to go in programming mode??
Thanks for help
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Re: Reprogram a remote key fob (central locking)

Post by SENATEpumA » Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:03 pm

Turn ignition from position 0 to I and leave it until light on clock flashes stupid?
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Re: Reprogram a remote key fob (central locking)

Post by e46 coupe » Thu Mar 07, 2013 8:23 am

Thanks for encouraging reply. :wink:
I have quoted 2 previous comments..... for a reason, :wink: . it means when the car doesn't go automaticaly in programming mode( in position I, :wink: ), how can you get it in programming mode in a different way......
Maybe someone out there is wyser, and can offer some good advice :wink:
Thanks for your time
SENATEpumA wrote:Turn ignition from position 0 to I and leave it until light on clock flashes stupid?
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Re: Reprogram a remote key fob (central locking)

Post by konstantinos » Fri Mar 29, 2013 9:37 pm

Hello,
I was just wondering if you could help me.
Got Ford Puma R reg. Key fob problem.
Opened key to replace batteries and a glass "thing" fell out. Its about 25mm long, 3 to 4mm thick, made of glass and i can see something like a copper wire spun around like a transformer or similar, plus a few electronic components inside it (i would think something like a transmitter??).
I put that glass "thing" to the only place it fits in the fob (it sits loose,not attached to anything) but when i close it, it rattles; which it didn't before!!!! The fob doesn't open the doors any more!! I have just tried the 2 button option you kindly suggest but the dashboard light doesn't "stay on" after 10 seconds, not even after a minute!!!!!!!
Tried to proceed, ignoring the tip the Alarm light stays on, press & hold lock till remote flashes (once) press unlock 4 times then release buttons. Remote then flashes 4 to 5 times, turn key in to 1 to exit programming but still doesn't open doors
Any help would be very much appreciated
Thank you for your time
Kind regards
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Re: Reprogram a remote key fob (central locking)

Post by e46 coupe » Mon Apr 01, 2013 11:49 am

Hi Konstantinos. From what you describe, I think ur IR transmiter is broken. I am not a specialist but just a DIY enthusiast.
I sugest you get that "glass thing" attached/welded to your remote before you can have any chance to succeed.
From the top of my head I say you don't sound knowledgeble about welding electronics so maybe you can get someone to do it for you(cheap....)
Maybe is worth considering getting a new fob on ebay or similar( same type of course) and install it on your key to see if you can reprogramme it( following method presented here...)
my problem is that the fob is working but the car is not entering in programming mode---- a result of either faulty CL module or wirring fault somewhere...
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Re: Reprogram a remote key fob (central locking)

Post by Redlinemike » Fri Apr 05, 2013 5:42 pm

can anyone help with my current issue in regards to the keyfob,

GF came out this morning & it wouldnt unlock, locked fine last night when she came in,

my biggest issue is that i cant open the doors with the key, it will turn either way but doesnt open,

now i know that if you double plip the remote it deadlocks the car, if the dumb bitch has done that would this explain why i cant open the doors with the key?

reason i ask is she did the same with a passat we owned before & end result was me smashing a window to get in cos she had deadlocked that when she parked it up
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Re: Reprogram a remote key fob (central locking)

Post by red » Fri Apr 05, 2013 8:14 pm

Deadlocking it means that you can't open it from the inside using the handles, you would still be able to open the locks using the key from the outside.

Have you tried a new battery in the fob? Can you open the boot with the key?
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Post by e46 coupe » Sat Apr 06, 2013 8:30 pm

[now i know that if you double plip the remote it deadlocks the car, if the dumb bitch has done that would this explain why i cant open the doors with the key?

I remember reading in my manual that if the car is deadlock, you should be able to deactivate it by opening any door with your key.
As you mentioned, you tried but no luck.
Before you make any damage, I sugest spray some WD40 in your locks and leave it for few hours and try d key again. it might be the case that the locks are dirty.
Also the previous fella sugestion, replace the batteries, or inspect your fob for loose conections in the battery part.
i remember seeing somewhere that if you take the batteries out, try to replce them whithin 15-20seconds, so you won't have to reprogram the fob.
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Re: Reprogram a remote key fob (central locking)

Post by Redlinemike » Sat Apr 20, 2013 10:35 am

well i had tried replacing the batterys as suggested with no luck, & i found i couldnt unlock either door or the boot with the key, in the end i pulled the door top open & hooked the handle inside to open the door & then went about reprograming the key as described at the start of this thread, since then its been fine,
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Re: Reprogram a remote key fob (central locking)

Post by e46 coupe » Tue May 14, 2013 1:17 pm

Redlinemike wrote:well i had tried replacing the batterys as suggested with no luck, & i found i couldnt unlock either door or the boot with the key, in the end i pulled the door top open & hooked the handle inside to open the door & then went about reprograming the key as described at the start of this thread, since then its been fine,
Funny business those keys for Ford...
I have a spare key that is only new cut but not programmed to start the car and that key can open the drivers and passenger door and the one that is old and worn can only open the passenger door's lock.
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Re: Reprogram a remote key fob (central locking)

Post by musicformybumhole » Sun Aug 11, 2013 12:55 pm

Tried as per instructions for a 3 button and doesn't seem to go into programming mode. Any ideas or diagnosis?

Was considering buying a new fob on ebay with the case and microswitches and swapping over the internals.

Just bought the car a few days ago and forgot to check remote when buying, it starts the car fine but none of the remote stuff works. The lock in the boot seems to be worn out too, so the remote bootlid would be helpful to get working again.

Thanks in advance for any help.
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Re: Reprogram a remote key fob (central locking)

Post by lusid666 » Sun Aug 11, 2013 1:50 pm

The problem with fords is if you dont use the keyholes they seize up. My cousin came up from down south for a funeral a few months ago and locked the keys in the boot of his 09 ford focus, got a locksmith out to pick the locks and it took him about 2 hours to free off the lock with copious amounts of GT85 because the car had only been locked and unlocked via the remote. Moral of the story is: 1, dont lock your keys in the boot and 2, use the keyholes occasionally to stop them from seizing.
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Re: Reprogram a remote key fob (central locking)

Post by alexwilliams840 » Sat Sep 07, 2013 7:35 pm

If i was the change my ECU from DIVE to TAPE I presume the central locking would no longer work? and that I would need the suitable fob to go with the ECU?
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Re: Reprogram a remote key fob (central locking)

Post by martinthrapston » Sun Sep 08, 2013 1:00 am

Central locking is seperated,immobiliser is built into engine ecu,so will need master key with replacement ecu.
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Re: Reprogram a remote key fob (central locking)

Post by alexwilliams840 » Sun Sep 08, 2013 9:05 am

The master key being the one programmed to the ecu already?
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