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Dwighet said:
No. You need a frp cam tool. Pm me if you want a loan of one.
Ah right so its not quite the same? Yeah i'll keep you in mind dude then cheers! Currently house hunting at the moment so who knows when i'll get round to it. How much do you charge?
 
No charge mate. Just send it back to me when your done. Id be sound like that. :)
 
A slight derail here, but...

Is a remap worth while (or just silly) on a stock 1.7?

The issue is, that here in Spain, everything must be declared and aproved by the ITV (equivalent of MOT). For it to be approved, you need to present documentation of the part, a certificate saying it is valid for your car and/or a study and project made by an engineer, and finally a certificate from a garage saying they installed it and that it is safe.

I am actually lucky in part, because my brother is an engineer, but we still have to pay the taxes etc. which can be between 300 and 700 euros, depending on what you are "legalizing". So, the cheapest way is to collect the parts you plan on changing, then get them all fitted and "legalized" at the same time.

Obviously, there are certain things that are not detected easily (such as an engine remap) and can be done over time, and then presented on the paperwork at the same time as all the rest.

On a lot of cars, I have fitted universal chips, and as I have fitted other parts, remapped the engine to find the "sweet spot".

Is this something that is possible on a Puma 1.7?

Thanks as always.
 
Wow, my car would be a near impossibility in Spain - I never knew it was that difficult, Spaniard's seem so lax on some things (health and safety on construction sites for one! Which is great because health and safety has gone mad here)

But then I've always thought it mad that I can get away with a normal MOT even though I've made a lot myself and all the parts have never been tested. Although (touch wood) none have broken either.

Anyway to bring this back on topic, Tommy, you are talking about Silverstone where some of the really high powered cars hit 140-150 down the old pit straight. I mean it is a big and fast track. The puma with standardish power is more suited to a track like Brands Hatch.

The kind of money you guys are talking about seems bonkers to me - cheaper to put a different engine in for the power increase you can get.
 
Getting puma TAPE ECU mapped next month :grin: bodywork isnt the best but MOT isnt due till May but since looking around you can get less rusty pumas than mine for £700 so the TAPE ECU and other mods can be swapped over without a problem if need be. So I see the map being an investment as i can install it into any puma.
 
You can only use a TAPE ECU in a car with a digital dash though it won't work in an analogue car
 
Hi folks, I've read about tape ecu,s on this forum but never understood what the difference is between the std and the tape, I'm awear you can remap a std ecu, so I'm confused why you we need a taped ecu, unless you can't remap a std eicu, its always confused me, maybe someone could explain it to me. I'll be changing my whole exhaust system to a stainless system next year, not sure which make, but probably the one that is quiet but give good performance, so would a std remap work, or a taped ecu or even using bluefinn. Anyway just thought I'd ask. Sorry to disturb the flow of this thread.
 
Hi mnicol,

The `tape` ecu is actually a four letter code. TAPE.
All Ford ecu`s have a code like this.

The 1.7 Puma came with four different ones fitted.
They look identical, except for the code.

The others fitted are MUFF DIVE and DUDE. (honestly!)

The FRP has one catalytic converter and digital dash and uses the TAPE.
Fitting it to a standard Puma gives loads of extra power.

Some standard cars came with a TAPE too, but they had standard map.
So a TAPE doesnt mean FRP map (that can cost a few quid)

I hope this explains what a `taped` ecu is. :grin:
 
Kind off, ill have a look and see what is fitted to my 1.7, I'm assuming that you could remap any ecu with the frp settings of any other performance remap.

Can't believe they called one MUFF and DIVE, it just sounds so wrong ha ha, Richard
 
To find out what ecu is fitted to your Puma you only need to lift the bonnet..

If your car has a digital odometer you will have either the DIVE or the TAPE (the mechanical odo is MUFF or DUDE)

At the back of your engine bay there are either two plugs (blue & green) or one (black)
These are the lambda sensor wires.

Two and you have a DIVE. One it`s a TAPE.
If its an older analogue odometer you`ll need to speak to a specialist such as Lightning Motorsport.
They can give you a remap on any ecu, but its £250+
 
trublustu said:
To find out what ecu is fitted to your Puma you only need to lift the bonnet..

If your car has a digital odometer you will have either the DIVE or the TAPE (the mechanical odo is MUFF or DUDE)

At the back of your engine bay there are either two plugs (blue & green) or one (black)
These are the lambda sensor wires.

Two and you have a DIVE. One it`s a TAPE.
If its an older analogue odometer you`ll need to speak to a specialist such as Lightning Motorsport.
They can give you a remap on any ecu, but its £250+
What about dreamsciense? Can that map any ECU? £249 as well
 
The thing with a TAPE is that you can get an FRP map cloned for more like £80.

If you know someone with the kit and knowhow,
and someone else with an FRP (or at least a mapped ecu)
 
With it being N/A some remaps are nort worth the money.
Prior to fitting my FRP map, I had an ecu with the Bluefin Superchip remap.
It was a wee bit quicker than a standard car,
but the FRP map is a WOW upgrade..
 
I`d recommend the puma speed remap... I have an older puma(98) with a MUFF ecu.. The re map cancelled out the torque limiters in 1st and 2nd gears and give it the same fuelling as a frp map...

I was well impressed with it. Well untill i fitted frp cams and a frp gearbox, frp air box mod..... Now I cant wait to go to work to drive it...lol goes like shite off a shovel especially with the 3degrees mornings were getting here in Ireland...
 
frp remap without cams , working fine? also..doesnt need remap if you put cams in later?

work witbout frp inlet manofold?
 
Standard engine will work fine with an FRP ECU/MAP.

Adding the cams, inlet etc. will make a difference but the best gains will be with all of it together.

Putting the cams/inlet with out the MAP I don't think would make a big difference.
 
I noticed the difference straight away. Full miltek system and frp air box mod, no cams. Definitely recommend. Pumanoob on here does the frp map, either with Ecu in the car or by post for more than half £250! He can map any of the Puma Ecus. Mine is a tape as standard though and I also experienced better fuel economy and I’m told I’m not the only one :grin:
Cams is on the list to do- eventually.

Richard- just adding to what Stu said, the tape is the more desired one when fitting a sports exhaust as it only supports one lambda sensor and doesn’t support EML so can save a bit of hassle.

Hanna
 

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