Rear beam bushes - anyone have any experience of these?

[Si7]

Going to replace my rear beam bushes at the weekend and am erring towards the polybush route simply for the ease of fitting but worried the ride may be too harsh with poly but have found these, they look a sort of halfway house, easy to fit - but rubber?

Anyone used these before, or any thoughts?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2x-FORD-K...icle_Parts_Accessories_ET&hash=item231ebd6a7b

 

[stumc]

they really arnt that bad mate. mine were shagged and its much more complicant now even with poly bushes.

 

[Si7]

I'll probably go that route, was just intrigued with these "modified" Meyer bushes, I can't find them anywhere else or even listed in the online Meyer catalogue. The seller wouldn't be "modifying" them himself would he??

What's your ride like with the polybushed rear beam, any harshness transmitted into the cab?

Cheers

 

[Si7]

Sorry Stumc, missed you post, so not too bad then poly. Think I'll just bite the bullet then.

 

[trueblue]

Poly bushed the whole car in the last week. The ride is not as bad as you might think. I poly bushed my other puma along with AP coil overs and that was a harsh ride. Fitting them to the rear is quite simple, it's all about getting the old ones out :x
I used a hole saw to get through the bush and then hacksawed through the metal part and then bent the whole thing in on its self and pushed it out. Fitting is simple, just push the new one in with a bit of copper grease.
Have fun :grin:

 

[Neil]

I wasn't a fan of Powerflex in the rear beam. Far too harsh.

Personally, I'd replace the shagged ones with standard - they're cheaper too, and much more compliant.

 

[Severio]

I did think about polybushing my rear beam but went with standard bushes, there easy to fit if you get the tool, I got one off ebay for about £30, but i did have to use heat to get the old ones out..

 

[Si7]

I'd much rather have the stock bushes, they're cheaper for one thing! When I look at the stock bushes they seem to have airgaps and carefully moulded webs etc, they must have been developed like that for a reason, just whacking in a slug of solid hard polyurethane must be quite a deviation from the original design. BUT they are easy to fit.

I'll consider buying the fitting tool maybe, or knocking one up. OR trying those easy fit rubber bushes. I've sent a question to the seller see what the score is with them, they certainly look far more compliant than the solid polyurethane slugs.

 

[YOG]

According to the original Puma Technical Service Training Manual, the bushes are referred to as "Toe-correcting trailing arm mounts".
This would explain why the original bushes have to be mounted in a specific position (see arrow embossed in the rubber part, pointing to the rear of the car):

Rear Bush Position

• YOG
• Mar 31, 2011

I assume you don't get the same effect with a polybush.

If your question is to the eBay seller, I can give you some more information:
I phoned the UK office for the manufacturer (Meyle) today and they checked with the ebay seller. It would appear it is Part Number 714 710 0003 and the seller says that a lot of the garages he supplies prefer them, as they are easier to fit than the Ford part. However, Meyle said that the seller told them they were using them on Fiesta IV, whereas in the Meyle catalogue it is listed as for an Escort!

Meyle kindly offered to let me have 2 samples free, and, as their office is only 5 miles away, I picked them up this afternoon.
I'll measure up the Length/Diameter of the standard ones on my Puma tomorrow, compare them with the samples and post up the results.

 

[Si7]

Well that's just brilliant, many thanks, I'll await your findings. :grin: (And "toe correcting"... very interesting too)

 

[stumc]

i went from apex springs, standard dampers and shagged rear beam bushes, to H&R coilovers, poly bushes, and brand new top mounts. and although the car is a little bit stiffer, its much quieter and more compliant over bumps. and much more satisfying to drive because its not crashing about everywhere making you wince even going over cats eyes!

 

[YOG]

Hope to speak to the ebayer tomorrow to confirm some info, but in the meantime, I’ve collated the following:
Febi-Bilstein (same style as original Ford):
Part Number 19829 Rear Axle Beam Mounting.
Fitting side: Rear axle, both sides
Length (end to end): 70mm
Outside diameter: 63.2mm
Height/thickness: 55mm


Meyle:
Length (end to end): 70.3mm/70.4mm (approx.).
Dia. (under rubber lip): 59/60mm (approx.).
Dia. (narrow white): 63+mm
Dia. (wide white): 72mm (approx.).
Dia. (Long ridges): 66.3/66.4mm.

No fitting instructions provided.
It would appear that the tapered rubber end is inserted first. As the bush is pressed in up to the wide white shoulder, the long rubber ridges distort to the inside diameter of the metal arm.

Meyle Rear Bush 02

• YOG
• Apr 18, 2013

Meyle Rear Bush 01

• YOG
• Apr 18, 2013

Meyle Rear Bush 04

• YOG
• Apr 18, 2013

 

[martinthrapston]

i did see these on ebay for the escorts,as i was thinking of using these instead of poly's,i might get some next month before the cabby is mot'd and see what they are like k:

 

[alex']

It's a RS2000 genuine bush

Plus "propre" que la perceuse, la presse fonctionne bien.
Exemple sur le train arrière de ma RS2000 qui est similaire à celui de la puma :

Merci des conseils qui confirment que la solution de la presse est la bonne.

Donc j'ai fouillé dans le garage et j'ai trouver de quoi faire une presse de fortune :


Le point départ :


"L'instrument" en place :



le silent-bloc d'origine retiré :

Avec la presse, il est sortie tous seul.

Utilisé :
- 1 tige filetée
- 1 cale en bois percée
- 2 écrous
- 2 rondelles
- des douilles selon diamètre (ici 2 douilles)
- 2 clés plates ou à œil

J'ai essayé à la scie cloche mais elle restait coincée dans le caoutchouc.

and apparently, they are similar bush on the Fiesta ZS

 

[Si7]

Good find and it's probably easier to fit but I was just worried that it's not designed for the Puma, as Yog pointed out the Puma bush is described as toe correcting, all these little tweaks probably add up to the sweet handling finished product so I'm going to try and fit standard bushes - wish me luck!