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Post by benbunny » Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:59 pm

Hi,

Where do people go now to purchase shims for the 1.7 engine?

Obviously ford no longer sell them.

I'm fitting some Newman cams and require a full set for the exhaust cam and one for the inlet.

I've asked at a local engine rebuilders and they're going to get back to me but in case of them failing.......

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Post by Wild E. Coyote » Fri Oct 09, 2020 8:47 pm

I would think all zetec SE should fit (i.e. 1.25, 1.4 and 1.6). And given that 1.25 was still beingproduced until a year ago, they should be obtaineable...?
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Post by benbunny » Sun Oct 11, 2020 7:42 pm

Thanks for the reply.

I'm not sure as everyone seems to draw a blank.

However, it seems that Piper and Lightening Motorsport can make them up for you. Which is the route I going. It'll give me the exact measurements I need and not an approximate one.

I'm going to see into if the other ones do fit out of interest and will report back.

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Post by DOH » Mon Oct 12, 2020 9:05 am

Any good machine shop can make them up for you on a lathe and then surface grind them down to the thickness you require and then harden them.
It will of course be cheaper and easier to purchase them off the shelf .

What is the diameter of the shim and thickness as I have some from a variety of engines and may then be able to tell you other engines that use the same size?

I would also recommend trying Burton's as they might have them.

Are they like any of the following?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from ... +SE++shims
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Post by benbunny » Wed Oct 14, 2020 7:56 pm

Hi,

I thought I'd hit the jackpot but Piper have sent me the top hat ones instead of the biscuit ones I need.
I'm back on the phone tomorrow with them.

I'm after 3.5mm or thicker. (I can get them ground down.)

The exact thickness needed are:-

2.85mm
3.31mm
3.32mm
3.39mm
3.29mm
3.30mm
3.28mm
3.29mm
3.26mm

The diameter of the shims is 13.8mm

I've attached what they look like.

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Post by DOH » Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:16 pm

Hi
there isn't an attachment?

The Peugot /Citroen 1.9 D shims are close in diameter and the dealers hold various sizes on the shelf.
e.g. these are 3mm thick and the price is for 4.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/4x-METELLI-V ... Sw7HpevlfR

They are 13.42mm instead of your 13.8mm

But 0.3mm less on th o/d shouldn't be a problem if they have the thickness's you require.

It would certainly be worth calling a few dealers to see the thickest shim they stock so you can then have them ground down.

I have made shims up in the past for race engines . After grinding, they have to be demagnetized and also hardened. So make sure your machine shop does that.

I am also aware that Toyota shims for the 2TG and 18RG twin cams from the 70's were a close match for the Peugeot Diesel Shims .
With that in mind perhaps the later shims from a 4AGE engine are the same diameter ??

All Toyota Twincam heads were made by Yamaha , that also was involved with the Zetec 1.7.

Here's a link to shims listed for a 3sge engine (I think that was the 3.0 Turbo Celica)
It seems to have thicknesses to what you require but unfortunately doesn't have the diameter shown in the add , but certainly worth calling your Toyota dealer .
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TOYOTA-ALTEZ ... Swe65fTG2I
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Post by benbunny » Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:00 pm

Thanks for your mega reply!

ooops, I didn't spot that the image didn't attach.....

I'm waiting to hear back from Lighting Motorsport who say they can make up exactly what I need. Failing that I'll go down the route you suggest.

Many thanks again.

We're definitely heading towards the realms of classic motoring!

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