If you did conversion and just had a good squeeze on the wire of one of front sensors, given their age it is usually enough to send them goodbye. On more positive note, they are really cheap to get and easy to install so.....
Mk1 Focus RS powered Puma, now going RWD, JWRC
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moondustka
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So with the MOT being all well on Friday and purchasing some road tax yesterday, the Puma is ready for the road (well, almost).
Engine mapping a week Tuesday and if all goes well (fingers crossed) it'll be fully ready for the road and be back at some shows this year :grin:
Engine mapping a week Tuesday and if all goes well (fingers crossed) it'll be fully ready for the road and be back at some shows this year :grin:
tuonokid
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Hi Ben
My MOT tomorrow, wish me luck
Barry
My MOT tomorrow, wish me luck
Barry
moondustka
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Yours will sail through Barry, nothing to worry about there.
Also, just to add, so far no leaks after the 40 mile round journey. Engine didn't run too bad for not being mapped either.
So all AN hoses made are good as well as the power steering pot I welded up, coolant pipe and fuel rail fittings. Quite pleased that it seems so far the effort (and using expensive parts!) has paid off :grin:
Also, just to add, so far no leaks after the 40 mile round journey. Engine didn't run too bad for not being mapped either.
So all AN hoses made are good as well as the power steering pot I welded up, coolant pipe and fuel rail fittings. Quite pleased that it seems so far the effort (and using expensive parts!) has paid off :grin:
tuonokid
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Cheers Ben, I hope the mapping goes well. I might have asked this before but many bottles of wine have passed my lips since, what's the ECU and who's mapping?
Barry
Barry
moondustka
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I'm running Omex 600 although looking to upgrade and will hopefully be the next engine mod.
Torque Developments in Thurrock - just the north side of the Dartford tunnel. They have one of the few Rototest hub dynos in the country I believe. My brother and I have been using them for the last 5 years and their knowledge is quite extensive!
Torque Developments in Thurrock - just the north side of the Dartford tunnel. They have one of the few Rototest hub dynos in the country I believe. My brother and I have been using them for the last 5 years and their knowledge is quite extensive!
tuonokid
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Yeah if you have good experiences with them, good reason to go back. Most of the Westy guys use Northampton motorsport, particularly with Omex set ups.
Barry
Barry
moondustka
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Yea, they understand Omex well, so makes sense. They also map other engine managements too like Pectel, Autronic, Syvecs. I'm thinking of moving over to Syvecs as it's much more sophiscated.
Whereabouts is Northampton Motorsport? Too far for me but just curious.
Whereabouts is Northampton Motorsport? Too far for me but just curious.
tuonokid
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Funnily enough it's in Northampton Heard of the others but not Syvecs but I take it there's more to it than the Omex 710?
Barry
Heard of the others but not Syvecs but I take it there's more to it than the Omex 710?Barry
moondustka
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I guessed Northampton was wondering if it was near Silverstone as I know some are.
Syvecs has a different style ECU where you can programme the inputs and outputs to be whatever you want them to be. It's more sophisticated in that it has active knock control also.
was wondering if it was near Silverstone as I know some are.Syvecs has a different style ECU where you can programme the inputs and outputs to be whatever you want them to be. It's more sophisticated in that it has active knock control also.
tuonokid
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Ah I see. better fuel= more advance =more HP = less likely to spill it's guts :thumbs:
Barry
Barry
moondustka
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Yes, don't get me wrong, Omex can do a good job of running the engine but something like Syvecs can do it better and have some safety features in there to help save the engine should something go wrong!
tuonokid
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Yeah Knock control is really good (more so with a turbo?) but to get more power just by changing fuel is awesome and as you said if you can change the way the ECU reads the sensors..... awesome!
Barry
Barry
moondustka
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Had a relatively successful day at the dyno today.
Wasn't expecting much more power as turbo can't flow any more really. It made 279hp and 309 lbs/ft torque at the hubs. With a 15% transmission loss I would guesstimate flywheel power to be 329hp.
Anyhow, that power is 8hp down on last time, but 30lbs up on torque. The good news is that was using less boost than before! Only 15-16psi. Before it was cramming in 22. Bad news is, the limiting factor was actually fuel and this is interesting because it either means my fuel pump is dying, I need a bigger pump or I make the current pump a 'lift' pump and mount a swirl pot under the boot floor with a stronger pump off that. The last option would be mor future proof.
Anyway, the results suggest this engine at a lower compression, P&P head and camshafts giving a higher lift will make the same power with less boost and this can only be a good thing.
More positives from today - my heaters are finally working and getting fully hot. I can only guess that there was a slight air lock in the heater matrix preventing full flow as it seemed fine on the journey home. The dyno fixed it!
With the new wheels and tyres on I asked them to do the tracking also. The car now feels much better than before, I reckon this down to the wheels and tyres. Ride is much nicer cornering seems much nicer and the car feels more stable.
All this said, I plan to actually use the car this year although I do have more things on the wish list, some of which will come sooner than others so no particular order:
New engine management! Capable of running the engine better with newer technology. I'm hoping to install drive by wire for the throttle after today's conversations.
New turbo, possibly GTX35 (above ECU and mapping will make this very driveable)
Adjustable rose jointed lower arms.
Triangulate the rear beam with adjusters to preload it and make changes to toe in/out.
Fuel pump and swirl/collector pot and new injectors.
4 pot brake callipers for the front!
All of the above amongst other things of course! Just got to rob a bank first :lol:
Wasn't expecting much more power as turbo can't flow any more really. It made 279hp and 309 lbs/ft torque at the hubs. With a 15% transmission loss I would guesstimate flywheel power to be 329hp.
Anyhow, that power is 8hp down on last time, but 30lbs up on torque. The good news is that was using less boost than before! Only 15-16psi. Before it was cramming in 22. Bad news is, the limiting factor was actually fuel and this is interesting because it either means my fuel pump is dying, I need a bigger pump or I make the current pump a 'lift' pump and mount a swirl pot under the boot floor with a stronger pump off that. The last option would be mor future proof.
Anyway, the results suggest this engine at a lower compression, P&P head and camshafts giving a higher lift will make the same power with less boost and this can only be a good thing.
More positives from today - my heaters are finally working and getting fully hot. I can only guess that there was a slight air lock in the heater matrix preventing full flow as it seemed fine on the journey home. The dyno fixed it!
With the new wheels and tyres on I asked them to do the tracking also. The car now feels much better than before, I reckon this down to the wheels and tyres. Ride is much nicer cornering seems much nicer and the car feels more stable.
All this said, I plan to actually use the car this year although I do have more things on the wish list, some of which will come sooner than others so no particular order:
New engine management! Capable of running the engine better with newer technology. I'm hoping to install drive by wire for the throttle after today's conversations.
New turbo, possibly GTX35 (above ECU and mapping will make this very driveable)
Adjustable rose jointed lower arms.
Triangulate the rear beam with adjusters to preload it and make changes to toe in/out.
Fuel pump and swirl/collector pot and new injectors.
4 pot brake callipers for the front!
All of the above amongst other things of course! Just got to rob a bank first :lol:
tuonokid
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Wow Ben that's a big wish list!!!! Drive by wire is a leap of faith allowing your ECU to make decisions you'd normally make. Would that be with a later Fiesta throttle pedal/pot?
Be careful with the rear beam as at least some of it is spring steel which won't take kindly to welding.
Good luck with robbing the bank
Barry
Be careful with the rear beam as at least some of it is spring steel which won't take kindly to welding.
Good luck with robbing the bank
Barry
moondustka
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Hi Barry,
The most expensive part on that list is the ECU and wiring loom. The benefits of DBW far outweigh the drawbacks, yes you are giving control to the ECU, but the ECU far better understands what needs to happen to the throttle when I push the pedal and that part can be user defined. By giving active control over more parts of the engine by the ECU actually gives the driver more control as you can tell it exactly what you want it to do at given times. In contrast, with Omex you have no control over the engine other than tell it how to run it at a basic level and you open the throttle and it decides how much fuel to put in.
Anyway DBW solenoid will probably be off a VAG car.
I was told that a lot of Clios have triangulated rear beams. Apparently it gives loads more grip in the corners. We'll see how I get on! Thanks for the heads up with welding!
The most expensive part on that list is the ECU and wiring loom. The benefits of DBW far outweigh the drawbacks, yes you are giving control to the ECU, but the ECU far better understands what needs to happen to the throttle when I push the pedal and that part can be user defined. By giving active control over more parts of the engine by the ECU actually gives the driver more control as you can tell it exactly what you want it to do at given times. In contrast, with Omex you have no control over the engine other than tell it how to run it at a basic level and you open the throttle and it decides how much fuel to put in.
Anyway DBW solenoid will probably be off a VAG car.
I was told that a lot of Clios have triangulated rear beams. Apparently it gives loads more grip in the corners. We'll see how I get on! Thanks for the heads up with welding!
moondustka
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So, in my search for fuel pumps, costs and deciding the best route forward regarding my feeling, I came across this:
https://www.merlinmotorsport.co.uk/...currency=GBP&gclid=CN-14umr3ssCFVTnGwod93YPkw
Seems to out perform a Bosch 044 and can be mounted inside the tank, keeping the installation to a minimum and more simple!
https://www.merlinmotorsport.co.uk/...currency=GBP&gclid=CN-14umr3ssCFVTnGwod93YPkw
Seems to out perform a Bosch 044 and can be mounted inside the tank, keeping the installation to a minimum and more simple!
moondustka
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Yea, I'm already running the Sytec 255 in tank pump that's sold as a basic uprated pump for the Escort Cosworth but I seem to be running out of fuel if any more boost is put in. Guessing down to lower compression etc. but it's been mapped to a safe limit for the setup I have at the moment
