Few Newbie Questions

[uxter]

Hi

I am new here and to Pumas, just acquired a 1.4 with a blown engine, now I know the whole 1.4 thing, but the car is principally a second car, but when I get some time I will also be using it for endurance rallying which has an upper engine limit of 1.4, see the sneaky deal I di there, so I have a second hand engine coming to replace the 3 cylinder 1050cc one that went pop on the A1 last night (34 miles from home, it did really well from Leicester)

So my question is, I will be replacing the clutch whilst the oily bit are being swapped (not by me, I am paying someone with a real socket set) and want to know which clutch to use as an upgrade.

On endurance road events the clutches tend to get a lot of stick, so I was thinking of a beefier one from up the range, possibly a diesel one?

Any thoughts?

Of course the next things will be cage, seats (I wont be going full rally seats, probably something better from an ST or something, presuming they fit no problem) make the headlights shine that sort of thing, bigger brakes.

Any advice gratefully accepted, just dont take the p*ss :lol:

 

[red]

Hi welcome to the site, we aren't here to take the piss....until you are well settled at least

Sounds like an interesting project to me! Nowt wrong with the 1.4.

Clutch wise you could always upgrade to something from helix or AP etc unless you are specifically wanting to stay Ford? Then something from a Focus would probably do the trick.

A brake upgrade from a Mondeo is well recommended as you can run 300mm discs instead of the standard 240/260mm

Good luck!

 

[Scotty1.7]

Endurance Rallying??? sounds intresting would ya mind telling more?

What sort of regulations are there for the cars?

Do you have any limits on your self for this?

 

[FlashBastd]

Fiesta ST clutch is supposed to be the best option for the IB5 box.

 

[uxter]

Well endurance rallying is like a stage/road rally hybrid, but its been in a lull the last couple of years, there was a Lombard rally revival for a few years but this seems to have died in the recession.

Basically its open to standard unmodified cars (except for safety mods) up to 1.4 naturally aspirated petrol or 1.9 naturally aspirated diesels, control tyres and the events tried to follow the rallying template of endurance rather than a few very expensive blasts around very expensive forests in daylight. The Lombard was about 4-5 days long and went all over the country, it last ran in 2008.

It still seems popular in wales and the south west, with other rallies having a class for the cars.

At the moment I havent the time, but my wifey wanted a Puma and with it being available as a 1.4 then it made sense, I dont mind small engined cars and the Puma handles well, which to me is the main thing.

So I will take every opportunity to sensibly mod it over time and hopefully it will take off again and I will be ready, my first rally car was a Mk2 Escort which these days would be worth silly money, so it will be nice to return to the Ford family, I am just about getting over the disappointment of them going FWD in 1980!

I do a bit of historic rallying as well in a 62 Volvo but thats off the road after a front end fire last season!

I must admit I have learnt a lot already from this site, its a great resource, stopped me impulsively buying some wheels which would have had the wrong offset!

I will look into the ST clutch, would I just need the friction plate or the whole assembly, ie cover and flywheel. Until its rallied it will just be a luxury so I dont want to invest too much when the standard one will probably do, rallying small engines is more about keeping your speed up than ragging it off the line.

thanks for the input

 

[nippydee]

Hi and welcome along!

 

[FlashBastd]

I think you need the cover, but the original flywheel should be fine.

 

[Midnight Blue]

Hi - welcome aboard

 

[TyeBoi]

that endurance rally sounds awesome!

 

[TyeBoi]

i have been looking into this road rally thing. me and my mate might be sorting something out come end of this year when i get close to finishing uni.

I am right in thinking you need to take a bars test (£180) and order a rally license (£58) before you can even start ?

we were reading loads into it etc etc.

any advice would be much appreciated

 

[uxter]

It depends, I must admit I don't know about this bars test? that might just be for stage rallying? I am an old codger soI got my licence years ago, but most of the historic stuff I do is closed to club stuff and you don't need a licence, I am sure its the same for a lot of road rallies, just download the regs for one your interested in and see what the requirements are, you usually end up a member of a few car clubs, but they are cheap enough.

Stage rallying is eye wateringly expensive and make you cry before you even turn a wheel, it doesn't interest me these days, yeah its quick and spectacular, but its more a sprint than what rallying used to be, some road rallies offer more competitive mileage than the stage events (thats what you do it for, the driving) for a fraction of the cost and you wont have to rob a bank just for your tyre bill.

Trust me I nearly bankrupted myself as a teenager trying to get into the fast and powerful stuff, even rallying a 1 litre Micra is fun, dont waste your money trying to buy results, just get out and compete

If you want some serious driving training go to John Hauglands ice driving school in Norway, you will learn more there than you would in a few seasons of in the forests.

 

[nippydee]

Wasnt the BARS thing introduced when independant schools got popular? The Motorsport Association did it (I think) to make it harder for unexperienced drivers to just claim experience to licence type. Rather like the Theory Test!

 

[nippydee]

Wasnt the BARS thing introduced when independant schools got popular? The Motorsport Association did it (I think) to make it harder for unexperienced drivers to just claim experience to licence type. Rather like the Theory Test!