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Post by Brian' » Tue Jul 26, 2016 8:15 pm

Love the attention to detail! :-D
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Post by Davedrave » Sun Jul 31, 2016 6:30 pm

I love how wide the S1600 kit looks. Cannot wait to put it on mine.
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Post by McCloud 85 » Wed Aug 03, 2016 10:55 pm

Davedrave wrote: I love how wide the S1600 kit looks. Cannot wait to put it on mine.
It's a great kit,the only thing I will say is if you want the car to look low then this won't do that! Even with 18s it still looks like it's a 4x4 (in the other sense) and if I lower it much more I'm going tone in trouble with clearance issues at some points..

But it is a rally kit so it's the look!
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Post by PumaNoob » Thu Aug 04, 2016 9:45 pm

Trust me, mine is not as wide as yours, I'm only FRP width, but I tried lowering the back a little more, and the wheels dug into the arches, pulled the arch lip out and sliced my tyres at the same time. I won't be trying that again in a hurry!
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Post by McCloud 85 » Thu Aug 04, 2016 10:53 pm

PumaNoob wrote: Trust me, mine is not as wide as yours, I'm only FRP width, but I tried lowering the back a little more, and the wheels dug into the arches, pulled the arch lip out and sliced my tyres at the same time. I won't be trying that again in a hurry!
Ouch the hard way of finding out you've gone too far. The back doesn't look too bad if you accept the rally look I guess, it's the front. It just doesn't look right.. Might try and see if the front can lower a bit but the exhaust is a mess and will catch.. Another item on the to do list!
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Post by Wild E. Coyote » Fri Aug 05, 2016 9:07 am

I just love the rally look. No need to go any lower IMHO. The best car looks ever are the rally cars in FInland spec. Gravel tyres that are not to wide, the car is almost everyday high/low....
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Post by PumaNoob » Sat Aug 06, 2016 9:01 am

I suppose it's a compromise between looks and practicality & handling.
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Post by McCloud 85 » Wed Apr 26, 2017 10:45 pm

So long overdue but an update on the car..

I had a busy week leading up to Ford Fair last year and looked into the front TCA's which were a mess to say the least.. the plan was to remove and repair and fit new poly bushes..

Old arms..

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So got the pair shot blasted at my mates ready for some repair works

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So the plan was to carefully TIG weld more material back on the arms and then carefully shape them to what I wanted. These arms were 'made' to accept puma ball joints on the end which allows the hub to end up in the right place and also makes them easy to be replaced and fit

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Add some paint and poly bushes

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And the end result..

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So with those looking finished I got them fitted back and the car (stupidly didn't get any photos) - car feels much tighter on the front end now, which is no surprise seeing the state of the old bushes!

That's all for now, will get a little more up soon. I briefly improved the breather system before ford fair too so I'll get some pics up of that.

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Post by tuonokid » Wed Apr 26, 2017 11:05 pm

Hi Dan
Those look a little like adapted MK1/2 Escort TCAs and if they are anything like an old Escort they are a pig to re-fit with the tension of the ARB.
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Post by McCloud 85 » Wed Apr 26, 2017 11:21 pm

Hi Barry, yeah that's right they are very similar. Even with tinge added bonus of being able to loosen the ball joint - TCA connection they still required ben and I to strap the sodding anti roll bar with a rachet strap to pull the lot together. Do not fancy doing that again anytime soon. Some strong words were mentioned shall we say :lol:

Thanks very much for the panels! I'll make sure I bring some cutting discs!
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Post by Wild E. Coyote » Thu Apr 27, 2017 6:55 am

Just was thinking the other day what is happening to this beauty, and the update is here! Top job, as always. :wink:

How is the ride quality of your car? Is it harsh no end, or soaks potholes?

As would my mate say, does it smooth out the bumps, or maps them in along the way? :grin:
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Post by red » Thu Apr 27, 2017 8:15 am

8-) great refurb, looked much better when you had finished.
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Post by McCloud 85 » Thu Apr 27, 2017 9:03 am

Wild E. Coyote wrote:Just was thinking the other day what is happening to this beauty, and the update is here! Top job, as always. :wink:

How is the ride quality of your car? Is it harsh no end, or soaks potholes?

As would my mate say, does it smooth out the bumps, or maps them in along the way? :grin:
At the moment the car is actually quite soft on the suspension and relatively comfortable to drive about in. Being a road car I want to keep it that way, but Ben keeps saying it needs higher spring rates so it may change at some point when we look at the handling more..!
red wrote: 8-) great refurb, looked much better when you had finished.
I couldn't believe they had covered some 20k in that state..
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Post by McCloud 85 » Mon May 01, 2017 9:41 pm

Managed to get a couple of pics of the TCA's fitted to the car to show the difference..

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Post by McCloud 85 » Mon May 01, 2017 10:12 pm

Looked into making the breather system a little better as well whilst doing the TCA's.. the return to the sump was a mess and just leaked so that was the main aim, along with replacing the pipes for something less sharp around the edges!!

Pot off the car

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Drain pipe changed for a smaller pipe on the pot to allow a smaller rubber hose - also welded a bracket to the pot so I can fix it to the strut brace rather than the fuse box as someone had before !!


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No more leaks

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Decided to fit oil gauges to the car so I could keep an eye on things until the one comes for better management that will do all this for me. With a couple of stepper motor stack gauges lying around it made sense to fit those. Which meant needed to fit a sandwich plate to give me the take of points.

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The annoying thing with this was the middle threaded tube was too long and wouldn't clamp the rubber seal on the sandwich plate tight so made an aluminium spacer and some instant gasket and it worked really rather well.

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With that done Ford Fair 2016 was the next day and the car drove faultlessly there and back. Was again a really good and enjoyable drive. Fuel tank made a huge difference to the journey than the year before!

Night before, cleaned and ready to go

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At the show

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And safely home again

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Post by tuonokid » Mon May 01, 2017 11:40 pm

Hi Dan
Well done mate, I can't believe this post is 1 year out of date, there must be so much more to come now. It will be great when you get this finished as it's a link between an old all conquering classic and a more modern FWD car. I would say a one-off but I was at a Croft Rally cross meeting 3 years ago and saw a lime green Puma (bloody quick) which may not be too different to yours.
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Post by PumaJay » Tue May 02, 2017 7:25 am

As above... 1 year old! We need up to date posts :o
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Post by red » Tue May 02, 2017 9:39 am

^^ I think you need a personalised number plate with 'FAT' at the end :D
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Post by yippeekiay » Tue May 02, 2017 10:56 am

red wrote: ^^ I think you need a personalised number plate with 'FAT' at the end :D
Yup, less than £200 for a correct T reg one ending in FAT or could push the boat out for a plethora of plates all the way up to £175k for FAT 1 :lol:
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Post by PumaJay » Tue May 02, 2017 11:21 am

agreed... F4 TTY would be an awesome plate for that!
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Post by McCloud 85 » Tue May 02, 2017 12:49 pm

PumaJay wrote: agreed... F4 TTY would be an awesome plate for that!
yippeekiay wrote:
red wrote: ^^ I think you need a personalised number plate with 'FAT' at the end :D
Yup, less than £200 for a correct T reg one ending in FAT or could push the boat out for a plethora of plates all the way up to £175k for FAT 1 :lol:
red wrote: ^^ I think you need a personalised number plate with 'FAT' at the end :D
Well I did want a plate for the car but unfortunatly 'DAN 85' or '85 DM' is sadly way way out of my budget.. a fat number plate might be a good alternative! Might have a look :wink:
PumaJay wrote: As above... 1 year old! We need up to date posts :o
tuonokid wrote: Hi Dan
Well done mate, I can't believe this post is 1 year out of date, there must be so much more to come now. It will be great when you get this finished as it's a link between an old all conquering classic and a more modern FWD car. I would say a one-off but I was at a Croft Rally cross meeting 3 years ago and saw a lime green Puma (bloody quick) which may not be too different to yours.
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Thanks Barry, yeah when you look around there are actually a fair few about, however I think I'm right in saying this one is the only one in road trim, which is why I wanted to keep it that way.

And yes Jay I'll get some more up to date photos up, although not much has happened - poor effort on my behalf!
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Post by McCloud 85 » Tue May 02, 2017 10:01 pm

Over the last few months of last summer the car ran well and was quite enjoyable to drive..

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Then came it's MOT in October which on its own was no real issue at all.. the journey home and the fact 3rd gear didn't want to play ball anymore meant that I now had a rather large repair on the car. It drove home no problem as long as 3rd gear wasn't used.. it basically just rattles like crazy when engaged.

So the car went back in the garage and the hunt for a new gearbox that would cope with the power began... and luckily for me found a straight cut Bara Motorsport box that had recently had a rebuild.. a trip over to Essex and the box was on its way home to the garage.

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Whilst busy with other things a fair few months passed and the car slowly became 'buried' in the garage.. but a few weeks ago now I decided that it was time to get on with it as the good weather was here again.. so I got the car uncovered and up on axle stands..

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.. yes those are door cards in the engine bay!!

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So with that ready it was time to get the old box out..

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That's where I am up to as of tonight... plenty more to come as I'm going to change over to hydraulic clutch while I'm at it.. also going to look into the shot bushes on the rear beam during this stint.

Thanks for looking.
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Post by McCloud 85 » Thu May 04, 2017 9:10 pm

Managed to get a little time in the garage last night.. decided to look into the pedal box. First up was to remove the plate that had been sealed in to block the original hydraulic clutch master cylinder holes in the bulkhead.

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Just needs a clean up and that will be good to go for now. Then moved onto getting the pedal box out which is a puma item that's had the Sierra/Escort clutch pedal put on the side.

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Then one next to a standard puma box

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With that out I'll look to getting the new pedal box fitted in with the master cylinder - seems daft someone went to the lengths to put a cable clutch in when all they needed to do originally was mount the slave cylinder on the side of the box and make up a braided hose.

Hopefully more to come soon.
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Post by tuonokid » Thu May 04, 2017 9:44 pm

Hi Dan
It's one of those self adjusting cable ratchet thingemybobs as well and they always fail, especially if you're using a heavy duty clutch.
Apart from the drive to the front wheels that (MTX75?) looks just like an MT75 even down to the donut drive at the rear. I wonder if it's the same internals as an MT75 and if it is it might be worth buying one for spares whilst they're still relatively cheap.
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Post by McCloud 85 » Thu May 04, 2017 10:28 pm

Hi Barry, yeah that's right it has the 'self-adjusting' quadrant, except I was convinced it never adjusted and caused a very floppy pedal! The clutch on the car is just the standard cosworth item so nothing over the top.

No that is the MT75 box. Just has different ratios for the cosworth setup as far as I know. There are a few companies that provide brand new complete gearkits for this box (at a price mind you) so spares are still readily available. Bara Motorsport is one of those companies that can basically build you a brand new box.
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