cone or panel?????

[actionman]

Hi


now i've done a search but it hasn't really brought much up!!

I'm gonna replace the original filter. Just trying to decide whether to go for a cone filter with cold air feed or just stick with a panel filter!!

I know some engines don't get along with cone filters!! Just wondering how the 1.7 engine gets along with them


thanks


Craig

 

[DradusContact]

It doesnt really do the engine any harm, but at the same time cones dont really ad much either. I would go with a panel. If you want to genuinly improve how air enters the engine consider changine the airbox to how the FRP is set up. That is, the air coming in from the front of the car rather than the wheel arch.

 

[spike.]

also fit a better quailty air filter

 

[actionman]

Well i've been looking at the K&N 57i kit & K&N panel filter. Spoke to a puma specialist earlier & they said to go for the 57i. Altho as they stock K&N you never know if they just want the extra cash!!

I've also been looking at the Ramair super-ram induction kit. Comes with cold air feed etc like the 57i!!

It's a shame i lost touch with a guy i used to know when i had my CRX. He used to make carbon fibre masts for racing yaughts!! He made me a custom carbon airbox to my spec!!


Craig

 

[Zenithus]

I deliberately put the K&N panel filter in rather than the induction kit because the induction cone does practically nothing.

As Dradus says, best thing to do is relocate the cold air feed.

 

[chris3boro]

If you want a minimal gain then go for an aftermarket panel filter, if you want a sporty noise then get an induction kit. That's basically the argument summed up. The choice is yours!

 

[PumaJay]

wont make any noticable difference to performace whether you go pnael or cone,

personally i have a green filters cone, but thats becasue i wanted abit more induction noise from the engine. but if you wanna keep your puma quiet then get a panel.

also depends if you wanna spend £40 on a new panel or £70 on a cone.

The choice is yours!

 

[Dogsbody]

I fitted the Cone / cold air induction kit to my first 1.7 Puma.
I did make an excessive amount of noise at full throttle, and the car was quick. But I don't know if that was because of the air filter and big exhaust or it was just one of the "Special" car that go better than they should do
I fitted the same big bore Blue Flame exhaust the my second Kat and that couldn't get to the rev limiter in 5th like its predecessor The only difference was that I didn't fit the Cone filter as I was fed up with all the noise.

Just fit a K&N panel filter.
Unless you like race car noise all the time :shock:

 

[shaz]

iv just fitted a K&N panel filter to my 1.7 and converted the air box to racing puma one and it does make a difference picks up better,money well spentin my opinion anyway

 

[XIIVVX]

Don't forget K&N-type filters give you a small immediate gain in power, if it is 2bhp that's about tops.

BUT

The filters performance deteriorates far quicker than a conventional one and will quite soon be leeching two or three bhp from your engine. But the process is gradual and you don't notice it.

 

[actionman]

As a quick update!!

I ended up buying an induction kit with cold air feed etc!! Purely cos it only cost me £30!!

 

[chris3boro]

As a quick update!!

I ended up buying an induction kit with cold air feed etc!! Purely cos it only cost me £30!!

make?

 

[BlackKnight1982]

As many people have said there is little difference, the engine will breathe easier with a induction kit or a performance panel, than the standard airbox & panel!
But the main probelm which seems to have got overlooked is the supplying the air to the airfilter cone or panel!
a standard airbox with a standard panel and airbox feed is restrictive,
changing the the panel will help a little but for better peformance you need to run a duct from the front of the car (like on the ford racing puma) to the airbox to get maximum amount of air in the airbox, then i would advise replacing the black standard inlet pipe (which is full of ridges all the way to the throttle body, which will effect air flow.) which goes from the maf sensor to the throttle body with samco or similar smooth bore pipe this will add air flow into the manifold better.
Ive currently got a pipercross induction kit with the duct running from behind my grille to supply air to the induction kit, this system runs fine & supplys my stage 5 engine fine, i was originaly going to get hold of a racing puma airbox as there like the system i described above but there rare as hens teeth!
Though with me running a supercharger soon im torn with which way to go with my induction system!

 

[PumaJay]

at the end of the day you can spend all the money you want on an induction kit and smoothing the flow of the air to the engine but its all for very little performace gain, if any at all, on a standard car like a puma your only looking at 2-4 bhp at the most add an s/s exhaust and its probs another 3-5 bhp, very small amounts and you'd never feel the difference when fitted, its just that placebo effect that makes you believe you can feel the difference between before and after...

.... that and the fact that you want to believe your hard earnt cash is making a differencto to the car.

i'l let you know the differece in power/torque when mine has been on the rolling road and my engine is basically standard apart from induction kit, samco induction hose and a piper cat back system that ive just ordered.

 

[BlackKnight1982]

Have you had it recently on the rollers before you have had all this work done?

 

[BlackKnight1982]

Because if you haven't you will have no idea what the car was originaly putting out?
cams & headwork work wonders on these cars imho.

 

[PumaJay]

nope not been on the rollers before, but as we all know ford under estimate the bhp of all there cars, but there quoted as producing 125bhp as standard im taking it from that.

Piper Cams, FRP inlet and 4 branch are all coming soon

 

[chris3boro]

Just put a vid of mine in my project thread.

 

[actionman]

chris3boro

it's a ramair induction kit with cold air feed. There's plenty of room to get some more cold air feeds running to the cone so gonna get myself some ducting etc

On my crx i had 2x 3" & 1x 2.5" cold air feeds which where attached to a big air scoop behind a section of the bumper i'd cut out & meshed!! Pics of that are in my gallary

 

[FordPuma_Shearer]

Hi,

where can you get the frp airboxes from as i want to relocate mine for extra performance, i currently use a k&n panel filter, is it worth doing or not.

Also are they easy to fit and will any other engine component parts need moving to facilitate it.