Proposed legislation to stop modified cars !

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John Woodward

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This petition is to try and stop the proposed legislation to stop cars from being modified

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/600954?fbclid=IwAR3-SpxK1DugugkLSsWl_ZJJWa8Fh1yo85U-OWDvd6Snegz3m_K0pnfHAzo
 
From what I've read it was more about stopping people removing or fitting emissions control devices such as de cats and dummy dpf.
I've seen the petition plastered all over Facebook and I think a lot of people have been drawn into it without actually reading the proposal.

Taken from the actual proposal.

Tackling tampering
We will create new offences for tampering with a system, part or component of a vehicle intended or adapted to be used on a road. This will enable us to address existing gaps in the legislation, ensuring cleaner and safer vehicles. We will also create new offences for tampering with non-road mobile machinery (NRMM) and for advertising ‘tampering’ services or products.

This will strengthen our ability to enforce compliance in this area.

We are aware that the Law Commissions in both their first and third consultations on automated vehicles have considered tampering. We await their final recommendations and would welcome views on our proposals, as follows.

Specifically, we would look to create:

a specific offence for supplying, installing and/or advertising, a ‘tampering product’ for a vehicle or NRMM – this would apply where a principal effect of the product is to bypass, defeat, reduce the effectiveness of or render inoperative a system, part or component (the product may be a physical part or component, hardware and/or software)
a specific offence for removing, reducing the effectiveness of, or rendering inoperative a system, part or component for a vehicle/NRMM and advertising such services
a specific offence for allowing for use or providing a vehicle or NRMM that has had the operations described in the previous 2 points performed on it
a new power to require economic operators to provide information, where a service/product they have supplied amounts to or enables ‘tampering’ with a vehicle or NRMM – this would apply in any of the above senses and include requirements to provide relevant information on the quantities of products sold or modified
We would like to emphasise that our policy intention is to prevent modifications that have a negative impact on road safety, vehicle security and the environment.

We do not intend our proposals to:

prevent legitimate motorsport activities
prevent restoration, repairs or legitimate improvements to vehicles, such as classic cars or motorbikes
negatively impact businesses involved in these activities
 
Hi.
I don't see this as a problem as most modified cars actually improve efficiency. It seems as though this proposed legislation is designed to improve standards and safety.
Regards.
Richard.
 
Similar laws have played hell on aftermarket tuners in the US. The biggest tuning software companies have really struggled to even maintain a viable business because the government shutting them down over any perceived "Tampering" (which is never really well defined) is a constant threat. Sign the petition, protect your freedoms as long as you can. Don't give government anything you don't have to, they will never give it back.
 
Would things such as standalone ecus be classed as a defeat device as it does in the states.
 
My view is that the Government doesn't care about the likes of us, the more people that sign the petition, the better as it will show them the aftermarket tuning and modification business is far larger than they imagined.
 
Would it affect items such as after market exhaust systems which remove say the middle silencer?

Probably would include steering wheels which remove a factory airbag?
 
"our policy intention is to prevent modifications that have a negative impact on road safety,..."

Couldn't they interpret that to cover anything that makes a car go faster?
 
The UK Government responded, make of it what you will, but I still feel it was important to make our voice heard, especially after reading articles such as the one in mmc757's post above.

"The intention of the consultation proposal is to prevent modifications that negatively impact on road safety, vehicle security and the environment.

Our ‘Future of Transport’ work is a broad and ambitious programme focused on supporting the industry. The regulatory review aims to ensure our transport regulations are fit for the future.

As part of the Future of Transport: Modernising Vehicle Standards regulatory review, we have put forward proposals to enable Government to better target and prevent harmful tampering with vehicle emission control systems, as well as with safety and security critical systems, parts and components.

We are not proposing that all modifications be prevented, and we recognise there are legitimate reasons why a vehicle owner or business may want to modify a vehicle. Our proposals are not intended to hinder activities such as motorsports, restoration, repairs, or legitimate improvements and alterations to vehicles, or indeed do any damage to the businesses involved in these activities.

Nevertheless, certain modifications can negatively affect the safety and health of the vehicle owner, its occupants, other road users, and the wider population.

Tampering activities that prevent a vehicle’s emissions system from operating correctly, such as the removal of the diesel particulate filter from a vehicle’s exhaust, can significantly increase a vehicle’s harmful pollutant emissions.

Therefore, as vehicles become increasingly automated, we want to prevent alterations to a vehicle’s integral software and sensing technologies which could create safety and security risks. A badly modified vehicle has the potential to kill its occupants and other road users. It is also essential that we ensure modern vehicles remain cyber secure throughout their lifetime, and that any modifications do not make them vulnerable to malicious cyber-attacks.

The MOT test is an important part of ensuring that vehicles on our roads are safe and roadworthy. However, we must also recognise that the MOT test is fundamentally an inspection of a vehicle as presented at the time of a test and can only be a simple check.

There are risks in relying solely upon the MOT test to tackle harmful tampering. For example, it only includes basic checks for the presence and/or function of certain emissions control equipment and is not proof that the relevant emissions standards are being met. It is therefore important that we also have the powers to target and prevent tampering activities that negatively affect road safety, vehicle security and the environment.

We opened a consultation on these measures on 28 September, which closed on 22 November. The Government will consider all responses received and publish a consultation response summarising the responses and setting out the next steps. Any legislative proposals taken forward will be carefully defined so they do not prevent vehicle owners or businesses from making legitimate modifications to vehicles.

Department for Transport

Click this link to view the response online:

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/600954?reveal_response=yes

This petition has over 100,000 signatures. The Petitions Committee will consider it for a debate. They can also gather further evidence and press the government for action.

The Committee is made up of 11 MPs, from political parties in government and in opposition. It is entirely independent of the Government. Find out more about the Committee: https://petition.parliament.uk/help#petitions-committee

Thanks,
The Petitions team
UK Government and Parliament"
 
A "certain person" I may or may not know...May or may not have gutted two of the three catalytic converters on his V6 car, leaving only the main cat to do the job.
This modification, if "this person" actually did it, would be clearly illegal in most cases.
However, it also caused a gain of about three miles per gallon in gas mileage.
That was probably 200k miles ago.
That would work out to roughly 857 gallons of gas saved.
That's about 17000 pounds of CO2 not emitted.

But bureaucrats know better...
 

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