Nurburgring 3rd-6th July 2009 General Discussion thread

[Dal]

Considerng this was my idea in the first place, im shocked im not even on this list! I demand to be added post haste! 8)

Your idea in the first place? Bloody cheek! Gotta post in thread to confirm

Added k:

 

[DradusContact]

I suggested it in chat, i clearly remember!

 

[Dal]

I suggested it in chat, i clearly remember!

Ok then. I'll let you organise it then matey

*downs tools*

 

[DradusContact]

Im an idea's man, its people like you that get the army marching, i just come up with the strategies.

 

[BOK]

Looks like I'm gonna miss RS day at Castle Combe for the first time in 8 years :shock:

 

[spike.]

Looks like I'm gonna miss RS day at Castle Combe for the first time in 8 years :shock:

You and me both! :-(

 

[Dal]

I've found out what's going on on the Saturday morning on the Nurburgring meaning the circuit is closed until 13.30:

A Gleichmäßigkeitsprüfung (abbrev. GLP, German for regularity test) is a motorsport event where precise timing is winning, not outright speed.

Mainly Classic cars events like the modern Mille Miglia are held as GLPs.

A special GLP series is held at the Nürburgring, on the 20.832 km long Nordschleife. On seven Saturday mornings, between 9:30 and 13:00, about 100 regular road legal cars take part, each carrying a driver and a co-driver, both fitted with helmets. They have to do 12 laps (250 km in total), with lap times in the range of 10 minutes to 15 minutes, or average speeds between 125 km/h and 83 km/h.

Each team can set its own target times twice, which has to be repeated three times each, for a total of 8 laps counting towards the results. The remaining four laps are in-lap, two pitstop laps, and out-lap. Time is measured in 1/100 seconds, and results are given in 1/10 seconds. Winners typically accumulate about 4 points, or 0.4 seconds, which means they cross the start/finish line with a precision of about 5/100 of a second for each of eight laps. Top-10-finishers manage about 1/10 sec, midfield-finishers about 1/2 to 1 second or more per lap.

Stopping or very slow driving is not permitted within 1 km of the start/finish line, but there is a "waiting zone" on the very long and wide straight called "Döttinger Höhe". Thus, competitors can drive for about 20 km as they like, enjoying the famous Green Hell of the Nordschleife while track marshalls provide similar security as in races (unlike in the public access hours).

Co-drivers are a vital part of the success, as they usually do the timing, guiding the driver to the finish line with 1/10 sec precision or better. Some co-drivers get sick during the 2 or 3 hours of driving, though.

The entry fee including the one-event competition license is about 200 Euro. Due to insurance issues and the event being designated as National, the cars have to be registered in Germany, and the competitors need an address in Germany, too. Occasionally, foreign race drivers are allowed to take part, mainly to prepare for the 24 Hours Nürburgring, e.g. actor Robert Carradine in 2001, or Italian lady racer Tamara Vidali.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleichm%C3" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ... %C3%BCfung

So a few beers on Friday night won't matter as we can't get on until 13.30. Could be good to go and watch though.

It's open to the public:

Friday 3rd 17.15 - 19.30
Saturday 4th 13.30 - 19.30
Sunday 5th 08.00 - 19.30

 

[spike.]

could be good to watch

 

[BOK]

Looks like I'm gonna miss RS day at Castle Combe for the first time in 8 years :shock:

You and me both! :-(

 

[spike.]

:gay: k: (just joking colin!)

 

[BOK]

 

[AndyW]

Dal, doesn't Neil need adding to the list? :hmm:

 

[Neil]

Yes please!

 

[Dal]

Neil added to this list as well as 'pending' on the travel one - until Neil's leave is apporoved anyway. Just accomodation to sort Neil!

 

[Anonymous]

:gay: k: (just joking colin!)

No you werent


Hey we can have beer on Friday night?!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!! :happee:

 

[Neil]

Quick couple of questions:

Insurance - obviously pretty much everyone's insurance won't be valid on the track, is there any you can buy for track use? Also, do you need additional cover for driving on the continent?

Secondly - breakdown cover! (Not that I'm suggesting that anything will break on #013 lol), but again, is there any specific cover needed for the continent?

 

[Dal]

Insurance - Get in touch with your insurer and ask for a Green Card for European driving. Most companies will send you one FOC. As for Nurburgring insurance - grey area. If your policy documents actually mention "The Nurburgring" being a place where it isn't valid, then by default it is as it isn't a race track on Tourist days, but a toll road. You might want to search for specific insurance for it if you're worried though.

Looky here:
http://www.nurburgring.org.uk/insurance.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

As for breakdown cover, if you have it already with AA etc, a small charge might see you covered in Europe for the weekend.

See this post for general info:

http://www.projectpuma.com/viewtopic.php?t=3131" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

 

[yippeekiay]

Quick couple of questions:

Insurance - obviously pretty much everyone's insurance won't be valid on the track, is there any you can buy for track use? Also, do you need additional cover for driving on the continent?

Secondly - breakdown cover! (Not that I'm suggesting that anything will break on #013 lol), but again, is there any specific cover needed for the continent?

I just added a link to trackday insurance to give you an idea on another Nurb' thread but here's the link again.

http://www.morispayment.co.uk/trackday_quick_cover.asp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

 

[Dal]

Thanks for adding that one to the Essential info thread Yip k:

More info the better for people to make their choices

 

[Neil]

Thanks Dal 'n Yip